Tuesday, May 23, 2006

Peace is Patriotic

What Do You Think?

When I see or hear protest slogans like “Support our Troops, Bring them Home” and “Peace is Patriotic” there are many questions that cross my mind.

s Are these protestors so naïve that they sincerely believe such slogans?

s Do they really hate the US, but are pretending to be patriotic in order to solicit sympathy and to antagonize real patriots?

s Would have peace protests been patriotic during World War II?

s Is there any truth to what they say?

It’s impossible to gauge how badly the protest movement has hurt US efforts to combat Saddam’s insurgency and to rebuild Iraq. However, the insurgents have scored two major victories so far:

1. The massive slaughter of innocent civilians.

2. The promotion of enough media publicity from these cold-blooded murders to boost a vocal “anti-war” movement in the United States.

Upon reflection there are a few more questions that come to mind:

s Where are the protests against Baathist fascism and terrorism?

s How do US troops feel out in the field when they hear of these protests? The military has enjoyed a extremely high re-enlistment rate and military bloggers have came out almost universally in favor or the US liberation of Iraq. They surely resent the efforts of these protestors who claim to be campaigning on their behalf.

s Why do protestors alternate between labeling US soldiers as genocidal maniacs and feigning the desire to help them by bringing them back home?

…I apologize about my lack of tact but I would suggest that the protestor in the picture below is just plain stupid. It is taken at a “peace” rally in St. Louis at the height of the “anti-war” protests on March 19th, 2003. He holds a “Peace is Patriotic” sign while masked Anarchists boldly stand in the background waving Anarchist black flags.



Eddie said...

Hey, excellent blog! I totally agree with that Chavez stuff. Your ideas are well based and I like the way you expose them. Keep doing the nice work!

Freedomnow said...

I'm glad you enjoyed your stay, please let the Maitre d' know if you need anything else.


nanc said...

brave sort - aren't they?

morning and peace be with you, fern.

and, i'd like my scrambled eggs with salsa, thanks.

Freedomnow said...

Huevos Rancheros is my specialty madam. Thank you for patronage.

Mad Zionist said...


Freedomnow said...

Whatever their motives, either sincere or not, they are unquestionably collaborators with Communists and Anarchists.

Groups like ANSWER and Code Pink lead the "anti-war" movement and are sworn Communists. They have no interest in patriotism to a democratic United States.

American Crusader said...

I think the majority are people of good conscience who are just naïve about real world politics. Unfortunately, the media is always quick to pick up their protests, making their "movements" seem bigger than it is in actuality.

American Crusader said...

I've seen several pictures at Cindy Sheehan's manufactured protest that are purposely shot at angles to make it look like there was more than just a couple of onlookers.

Freedomnow said...

Thats the problem with activist journalists.

Rocco at the Autonomist had a great article on a Reuters reporter that wrote a horribly biased story that was passed off as news

nanc said...

fern, have you seen this at drudge?:


galloway says blair assassination would be justified. why is it SOME people may say whatever they please while the rest of us are expected to zippenzeelippenzee?

i don't care what anybody says, stuff like this is not off topic!

nanc said...

the article you linked is really taking off at autonomist!

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

I always make it a point to tell a leftist that I don't question his patriotism because I don't believe they have any patriotism to question.

Always On Watch said...

We've always had pacifists--the Amish immediately spring to mind. But since the Vietnam War, the "conscientious objecters" have gotten major play in the media. Before that, we had to look for them, and they weren't in our faces in the media.

As far as I concerned, such displays give psychological aid and comfort to the enemy.

beakerkin said...

No I agree with Freedom Now that Communists have organized the peace and immigration protests. The point is that we should bring it up at every opportunity. Kindly step away from the genocidal maniacs and then we can talk.

When you get a chance read Possum's interview she is brilliant.

Freedomnow said...

Nanc, you are worthy of a medal of honor for your librarian skills. Thats another great link.

Honesty, I'm beginning to question Mr. B's commitment to the Proletarian revolution.

AOW, the Quakers are another good example and they actually get caught up in the Anti-American American Movement sometimes.

If the movement were more balanced and protested against terrorism and real fascism I would more inclined to accept their sincerity.

As it stands I can only see them as hopelessly naive at best.

Elmer's Brother said...

for the most part my short experience in Iraq though frightening was a positive one. when I returned others were and are suppportive. I only know one person who called me a baby killer and said I was going to hell. she is a "progressive".

nanc said...

collateral damage is always a tough one to explain, elbro. people are insensitive to our veterans and i cannot help but hug them or shake their hands when i see them out and about. now, come here, you little devil - time for a nanc-hug!

Mr. Ducky said...

Man, it was a tough day in the neighborhood.


A Katyusha rocket struck destroying a building in the city-center of Baghdad, Iraq wounding four people.

A car bomb exploded in a public market in in the Nahdha district of Baghdad, killing at least ten people and wounding 30.

A bomb went off in the southern Baghdad neighbourhood of Al-Bayaa wounding 18 people.

A roadside bomb missed a U-S convoy in Baghdad, but injured three Iraqis on a minibus.

Iraqi police found the bodies of two men shot dead in Dora district in southern Baghdad. The bodies where handcuffed, blindfolded and shot dead and were left near a farm in the area.

Police found three bodies in western Baghdad with bullet wounds and showing signs of torture.

In the upscale neighborhood of Mansour, a roadside bomb exploded near the motorcade of Ahmed al-Chalabi, a former deputy prime minister who is currently head of the De-Baathification committee. Chalabi was not injured.

The coach of the Iraq tennis team and two players have been shot dead by armed gunmen in the Saidiya district of Baghdad, the Iraqi Olympic Committee chief said today. According to eye witnesses, the three men were killed because they were wearing shorts.


Armed men wearing Iraqi army uniforms kidnapped nine civilians from their houses Thursday night. Ali al-Khayam, the spokesman of the Joint Coordination Center in Diyala Province, said four of the kidnapped were security guards at the Diyala TV network, a TV and radio station in the province. The fifth was a translator for the US forces while the other four were government employees.

Gunmen execute two policemen held with them before being released, one of the hostages said.


U.S. soldiers brought 14 bullet-riddled bodies, including those of two children, to the morgue in Tikrit. It was unclear who had killed them.


Four unidentified corpses bearing fatal bullet wounds were found in different parts of al Maqdadiya.


Gunmen stormed a wedding party and abducted the groom, his uncle and cousin and a guest at the party and all were found the next day beheaded near Muqdadiya, 90 km (50 miles) northeast of Baghdad, police said on Friday.


A Sunni Imam and a bodyguard were killed by gunmen in a drive-by shooting as they travelled to their mosque.

British forces in southern Iraq have come under bomb, mortar, rocket and sniper attack almost twice in the Basra area a day since January, losing 12 dead to hostile fire, according to figures seen by The Herald.

Ten corpses bearing fatal bullet wounds were found in the Al Moqal district of Basra. The corpses were discovered with their hands bound and bore evidence of torture along with fatal bullet wounds to their heads.

Khour Al-Emmaya inlet:

A fire broke out in an oil supply pipeline at a docking station for oil tankers north of the Arabian Gulf. Fire fighters are still fighting blazes in Khour Al-Emmaya inlet, as well as the oil leakage.

A fire that had been burning aboard one of Iraq's two oil terminals, the Khawr Al Amaya Oil Terminal (KAAOT), May 26 has burned itself out. No U.S. personnel were injured in the fire. Several Iraqi personnel were injured in the fire.


A roadside bomb detonated near a police patrol in the south ofKirkuk, killing one policeman and wounding four.


Police reported the explosion of a bomb left in a sack in a liquor shop in Sinjar, 125 miles west of Mosul. The shop's owner was killed and two customers were wounded.


(Yesterday) Four policemen who were shot dead by insurgents in Ramadi. The policemen were heading to their homes when they were ambushed by gunmen on a little travelled farm road and killed.

US forces shot dead three firefighters in Ramadi. A security source told Deutsche Presse-Agentur dpa that the firefighters were killed as they extinguished blazing homes and vehicles that had caught fire following armed clashes between insurgents and US forces in the al Aziziya district of Ramadi.

nanc said...

alright - stop spammin' the board plucky!

fern said, "Nanc, you are worthy of a medal of honor for your librarian skills. Thats another great link"

nanc replied, "stop! people don't like teacher's pet!"

now, say something hateful about me so i may go about my buzyness!

Freedomnow said...

Thanks for the visit Ducky. Most dissenters who visit are short on facts and long on personal attacks.

I noticed that you didnt list Fallujah and Mosul in your Iraqi Resistance Report. While I'm not saying that insurgent activity is at zero in those cities I am saying that the silence is deafning.

Last year at this time Fallujah was under insurgent control. When the US liberated the city many insurgents fled to Mosul and overran many police stations, making it one of the most dangerous cities in Iraq. The insurgents have performed very poorly wherever they chose to stand and fight.

Last year there were no Iraqi army units that were capable of effective and independent action. Now there are over 100,000 Iraqi soldiers many of whom carry out operations with little or no support from the US.

If you had made a similar list of casualties in Europe during the last year of the war, 1945, you would have considerably dwarfed the level of violence that is currently happening in Iraq. In spite of that horrible violence the US and Russia were both at Germany's borders and the amount of progress was undeniable.

From the German point of view the lack of progress on their part was considerable.

Tell me Ducky how much progress are the insurgents making?

Have they shaken the will of the Iraqi people who have just installed the first democracy in their country's history that fairly represents all ethnic groups?

Is the US military on the brink of defeat when the troops with highest morale are the ones that see the most action? With re-enlistment rates higher than ever? With military bloggers confidently speaking out on their own behalf?

The US will do for Iraq what we did for Japan and Germany. Remember we still occupy those countries. How many innocent Japanese and German civilians are we killing there? Can you give me a progress report on those occupations?

beakerkin said...


The Malard has spread beyond AOW, Jason Pappas and my blog. This calls for Elmer Cheney.

Elmer Cheney: Be vewwy Vewwy quiet I am hunting Marxist Ducks Hahahaha.

FLORIAN said...

Excellent post FN. Most idiots that think PEACE is patriotic don't live to tell about it since they are either sold into slavery or executed along with the other revolters. What do they think, that Peace is free? Peace costs a lot more than blood and body bags. I wonder how much longer dems and other liberal hand me outs think that our freedom will last if they continue to do everything in their efforts to destroy it. Might as well invite Al Qaeda and UBL into the White House.

Jeff Bargholz said...

Peace has to be fought for, freedom ain't free and supporting our troops means supporting their mission.

The notion that leftsts care about US soldiers is risible, to say the least. They gleefully note every soldier's death with propaganda foremost in mind and satisfaction taking a close second. These people are the scum of the Earth. Their ghoulish method of using dead soldiers to promote their bankrupt ideology marks them as the scummiest sleaze-bags our nation has ever spawned, and their use of rank deception makes them even more detestable.

How low can a human being go? These vermin scurry hand in hand with the jihadis.

"Peace" activists are hatemongers, impure and simple.